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Sweeva - is the reward worth the hassles?

Sep 6th 2010 at 7:26 AM

When I first joined Sweeva, the idea of being able to comment on sites and get your own commented on was really quite attractive.

However, the way it is going at the moment is clearly beginning to drive people away.

Commenting on sites is being replaced by oflfensive personal comments about the site owner and in some cases these comments are being taken outside of the site chat and made on the profile instead. The ability to comment privately is being grossly abused.

I have been a pacifist all my life. I took an active part in anti-Vietnam demos in my teens and 20's and in later life have turned to the pen/word processor to make my feelings known to politicians and others who promote and condone war.

So when some specific businesses started to use images of war and killing in their advertising, it struck a raw nerve and I voiced my opinion. The reaction was extreme to say the least. I deleted the nasty and spiteful comments, but then found that my sites were being trashed in chat with no justification other than revenge.

I don't do scams - no way. If I think a site is a scam, I will take a look at it, maybe sign up if it is free just to take a look and then unsubscribe when I've made up my mind. Clearly some people on Sweeva can't even do elementary school maths to work out whether a program can sustain what it is offering to pay out. Some programs deliberately mislead, offering some scuzzy e-book as a 'product' to get around what would otherwise be a pure Ponzi scheme.

There isn't as much virus and malware checking of sites on Sweeva as other traffic exchanges do, and I've encountered viruses. attempts to download malicious software and even attempts to change my home page. As an IT professional for over 20 years, my own PC security is high level. I would rather have to make an exception to view a genuine site than get caught with a virus attack.

And what happens when I report a problem like this in chat? I'm told I'm lying or that I'm some dumb bunny and I don't know what I'm talking about and more personal abuse. So be it I tell them. Ignore me. Don't update your anti-virus or don't bother to run it at all, it's you who will lose the contents of your hard drive someday soon.

I have a few pet hates, I admit. One is banner farms. I'm not talking about the very attractive Banners and Bucks splash pages, but whole blog or website pages with banners and text links to payment proofs, yards and yards of it that no-one is going to scroll down to look at.

I've tried explaining politely that this kind of advertising is not effective, but it isn't taken kindly. And I don't like popups (particularly exit pop-ups) and loud videos that autostart and/or have no 'off' button.

Now, you might think that there is NOTHING on Sweeva that I ever had a good word for. I do, but you have to remember that it's a reflection of IM in general and if you don't realise that it is a dangerous place with a lot of dishonesty, then it isn't for you.

One of the guys who has been really nasty and personally offensive is a good designer and does some attractive splash pages for other people. I just don't always like his choice of subjects.

I've been told two different things about the attitude of Sweeva admin to the abuse problem. One is that they just don't care and are happy to let a few bullies and scammers  spoil the show. Another is that they are afraid to say anything because the perpetrators spend so much time on Sweeva, are upgraded, lots of referrals etc. And another is that they recognise that it is driving people away and are actively considering ways to stop it.

Perhaps the 'private profile post' was one way to try to stop it, if so, sorry guys, it is making life worse, because there is no automatic way of banning someone from posting on your profile, or if there is I haven't found it.

To the people who just make throwaway comments like 'nice' or 'OK', please be more constructive in what you say. PLEASE don't write something and cut and paste to every site. PLEASE don't beg for stars, it's a big no-no and won't get you many!

I'd like to see Sweeva admin emailing everyone and re-stating the aims of Sweeva as they see it, reminding everyone that you don't get personal, and that you have to be prepared to take honest and constructive criticism - like saying that colours don't work very well, or font needs to be bigger and also to warn that a program doesn't look like it can fulfil what it says on the page. I think that is what was intended and Sweeva needs to get back on track - otherwise I really have to consider if the time I spend there each day is well spent.

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Sep 16th 2010 at 9:06 AM by m8t43
Hi Jenny OH,Boy Jenny, you sure struck a nerve here. Thanks for sharing your experiences with Sweeva. I am sorry you had such bad ones :( I am happy to say, I have not had anything but positive comments. I follow you all the time on Sweeva and have enjoyed your honest and helpful comments. Also always pointing out to the viewers how important it is to leave constructive comments, to help each other. I agree with you, that the Admin is too afraid to confront the various issues here that need to be addressed, because some of them are heavy hitters. Yet Sweeva has such immense possibilities, I hate to see whats been happening. I still get good results from my posted sites. What really gets me though is that we have to spend so many credits now, just to get our sites seen and then only have anywhere from 40 to 60 people view them. Whats up with that? Sweeva has now over 25,000 members, where are they all? With such a low viewing rate, and so few constructive comments being made, there is just NO way for us to re-coop our credits. I like this paragraph taken right from you. I'd like to see Sweeva admin emailing everyone and re-stating the aims of Sweeva as they see it, reminding everyone that you don't get personal, and that you have to be prepared to take honest and constructive criticism - like saying that colors don't work very well, or font needs to be bigger and also to warn that a program doesn't look like it can fulfill what it says on the page. I think that is what was intended and Sweeva needs to get back on track - otherwise I really have to consider if the time I spend there each day is well spent. As to my time being well spent? I am beginning to wonder about that too. I still have strong hopes that Jon, Tim and Austin will address this issue and get it all sorted out. I also agree with Louise, if anything like that happened on my TE they would be booted in a heartbeat. Monika P.S. Jenny do you attend the IN-House conferences that Jon gives quite frequently? Now there is a good place for you to voice your opinions and get instant answers from Jon. I attend them as often as I can. I have gleaned much good and helpful information here.
   
Sep 6th 2010 at 11:17 AM by lulubel
My first thought in reponse to this is that Jon and team will be aware of the problem, and will be deciding how best to deal with it. But the worst thing a site owner can do is take sudden and drastic action as a "knee jerk" reaction. Of course Sweeva won't be allowed to "fail". There's been far too much time and money invested in it for that to happen. Personally, I haven't experienced any offensive behaviour on Sweeva. This might be because I'm incredibly thick skinned, and I don't notice it! (Believe me, you have to be thick skinned to run a TE.) If someone was causing problems at my TE, it wouldn't matter who they were, how much money they'd spent, or how many people they'd referred, etc, they would be banned. But, like I said, I haven't seen it happening myself, so I can't say how bad it is from my perspective. What I do know is that if there's a problem, it will be sorted.
   
Sep 6th 2010 at 8:43 AM by TerriLPattioMLMmento
Here, here on speaking up. I had this very thing on my mind also. Perhaps if all of us that feel the same way about Sweeva would all submit a complaint. Just maybe the admin would do something, or else suffer the consequences of losing us all. Maybe as you say they just don't care. That would be truly sad. There is hope and I will be submitting a complaint, it's worth a try to see what happens. Thanks for writing this as this is a cause for concern, I really believe that Sweeva is a very good site. After all that's where I met you my friend. Very happy to know you. Have an excellent day!
   

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